This is the point at which the organic material inside the herb is released from a solid state into a gaseous vapor state. This is also commonly referred to as the boiling point.
The temperature of the box centers at around F during typical use. This is an optimal temperature to release organic compounds from the plant without the risk of combustion at temperatures exceeding F [2]. The vapor produced is inhaled through the front end draw hole of the device. Air is taken in from the air intake on the back of the device. The air drawn in through the pressure created by the user passes through the trench area of the box and out the draw hole through the glass draw stem which can be omitted of using "native mode.
A very slow draw inhale is required for best results. If a user inhales too quickly, the air rushing through the trench area will inhibit the conduction and IR processes from sufficiently heating up the herb to an appropriate level for vaporization. Thus, users need to remember that the slower they inhale, the hotter the herb becomes. This notion is also utilized in an advanced. Note: if a significant amount of visible vapor is exhaled, users should consider inhaling slightly quicker or holding their breath in for longer.
Otherwise, the active compounds, which produce desired results, are wasted and not absorbed into the body. Open navigation menu. Close suggestions Search Search. User Settings. Skip carousel. Carousel Previous.
Carousel Next. What is Scribd? Uploaded by cpmustangs. Did you find this document useful? Would the small two piece titanium space case grind to a fine enough consistency? Your site is very well done and has been a big help — kudos. Here is my dilemma — I typically take two or three nice draws at the end of the day to relax.
I also I noticed in your Pax usage demo that you got solid draws out of the filled Pax. I would fall over if I tugged that many times with my excellent inventory. If I fill the Pax as you suggest and take only three draws and then leave it alone til tomorrow, I would get about five sessions over five days with a fully filled Paz chamber.
What to do? My main goal is to maximize my herbs but get the best mobile draws. Hey I do think the MFLB is ideal for just a few draws at a time but if you like the Pax and want to make it work I would recommend doing what I show in this post. Basically in your case I would recommend packing the oven half full using the method I describe, and then breaking that up into two sessions of a few draws each.
You could pack it full each time but there is a slight drop in quality each time you re-heat the material, so vaping the same stuff more than twice is usually not recommended. Great feedback Bud. My brother has the MFLB which i tried before making my purchase and after all ur reviews I decided to go with the Pax a month ago using the company u refer folks to.
They delivered all the way across the country for no shipping up charge in 1. Keep up the Grt work. I will try ur screen fill technique and again appreciate ur insights. I was very skeptical about purchasing the mflb because it doesnt look very impressive, and maybe even a bit of a con. However I absolutely love it! Already feel healthy with lots of other benefits! Takes a while to get the style of how to make it work efficiently but all the videos on the site and the information on here is all you need for high level efficiency!
Hey Bud, greatings from Italy!! Thank you for your interesting site! So i had the MFLB for about 4 months and I totally like it, the only thing that concerns me a bit since I hit it the first times is that often — not every hit — but often it makes me cough. Not a sort of explosive cough, is more like feeling an irritation in the troath and then cannot stop coughing a bit after that.
Have you ever experienced it? Hey sorry for the delayed response — the first thing that comes to mind is that maybe your material is not dry enough, that could be a source of the irritation.
This vape works best with very dry, very finely ground up herbs, and believe it or not the vapor is smoother when there is virtually no moisture left in your material. Hey Bud! You helped me a lot in the process of choosing a vape. I am all the way down in Costa Rica, and we surely love good medicine around here haha. Right now thanks to life money is not an issue so which one would you recomend for a first user who really needs portability and discression. The MFLB is also small, but I find myself using it more when I only want to take a few draws, spread out over a longer period of time.
Thanks for taking the time to review and post about all the different vaporizers. I absolutely love them both! The MFLB seems to be a bit more stealthy due to the lack of smell. I Also bought the Plenty and enjoying it a lot. I use it regularly and I still go through less herbs than when I rolled or used the [water-pipe]. No one heard or smelled a thing other than poop.
I do recommend you get extra glass pipes. What can I say, I was really [distracted] at the time; sh! I finally purchased a vape and this was it. Mostly due to your reviews and the comments. My current grinder is a knock-off that doesnt grind half as well as the SC. It does take some practice to get the right herb size and inhale speed.
After overheating a trench full and it tasting like burnt popcorn. I am getting the hang of it. The vapor can be a little harsh if you draw to slow but practice is making perfect. I really like this vape but for small hits its really harsh compared to other portables but the nice thing about this one is really the size of the unit also your friends wont get good use out of it its more of a personal vaporizer because it takes a bowl or two to really learn how to get good hits from it.
I think I stumbled upon your site via one of your youtube videos. Just want to say your review encouraged me to buy the MFLB! Thanks again for the awesome videos; keep it up. Just got a couple days ago and it works like a charm.
My only question have you encountered this? Once I disengage the battery and pull it out, and move the mouthpiece from my lips, the herb still sticks. I slid the glass to the side and the herb somehow slid up and around to the top of the glass. So odd. Just wanted to say Thanks for all the work you put into helping people.
Thanks for the kind words also! Does one chew through more herb? Do you think the savings in herb would pay for itself fairly quickly? Have you heard of anyone spending lots and then not liking the experience? It would be awesome if we could search through all,of these comments as it has more answers than most forums on the same products and topics.
Thanks for explaining your situation. As a general rule, up to this point in time, most desktop home units outperform most portable units. So even though portable vapes are cool and convenient, the vapor is normally not as dense, potent or tasty as a good desktop vape. The Solo produces larger amounts of vapor, and it tastes better. I think the P is one of the best vapes for transitioning from smoking. One of the main differences that takes some getting used to is the draw duration, or how long you need to pull from the vapes for.
When you smoke you normally pull for only a second or two but when you vape the draws are more like seconds. Thank you again so much for your reply. Your review did help me choose the best one for right now. We received our first vape yesterday, the Solo, and enjoying it emensely as I write: I guess I was reluctant to spend for the Plenty as it is our first vape.
But all is well, getting up to 10 hits on half a pack. I have an MFLB its my daily driver, not really equipped at the crib to have a desktop, so portability is a requirement on any device. That said I feel its time for a change. I like your review on the pax, but is it a replacement? Do I keep the box for another 6 months?
Hi there! I have used about vaporizers and recently decided to purchase one for myself. The main use for me is that I have to be able to use when my parents come to visit They are not ok with me using herb. I need to be able to use it without the whole house smelling, how ever I will be doing at night so there is some guaranteed time for the smell to go away.
Key things I need are: Portability, Vapor not having super strong smell, Good tasting vapor, and most importantly; getting me very good [results]. I was always getting mediocre tokes…. So this morning, for the halibut, i put a small [iece of tape over the vertical narrow slot the runs down the front edge and the bottom of the LBox.
It tokes harder small hole but works better. Is there something wrong that I had to do this? Seems like some kind of internal airflow defect? Hey it sounds like maybe you were taking too fast of a draw originally, which would cause the temperature inside the unit to not get high enough to properly vaporize all the material. You probably restricted the airflow a little bit by using that piece of tape which forces you to take a slower, longer draw.
Thank you so much man. Can you use normal batteries with the Launch Box? If using it in a group, does it pose problems for continuous usage? Do you think that for the big price difference and wanting something that can be used more as a group device, that the Pax is the better option? If not what would be something that is also portable? Yes I think that the Pax is worth the extra cost and that it is better for group sessions.
I edited your question a bit to keep it G-rated… I personally think the effects are roughly the same with both methods. I found this vaporizer [Da Kube] looking exactly the same like Magic-Flight and having same specs. I would stay away from a product like Da Kube because it is a cheap knock-off imitation of the real Magic-Flight Launch Box. This was with the free shipping!
One tip I can give you is that it really works the best when you use really finely ground up material, even finer than most grinders can go. It also helps a lot if the material is on the dry side instead of having moisture in it. What I found works pretty well is to grind up your material as you normally would but then spread the grindings out for a few minutes to dry even more, then gently crush it even smaller with your finger before packing it into the trench of the launch box. Which mouth piece is better to use with the Launch Box…..
I am just looking for something that will be healthier than smoking and will give me a pretty good high. I smoke around 4 nights a week by myself at home and thats about it.
Is the Launch Box good enough to get the job done? If I can get this with the Launch Box I am more than happy. My biggest concern is to have a healthier alternative to smoking, but will still get me high off of one session.
Great input. Thanks for taking the time to create the site and the vids. Great info in an easy to understand and navigate formate. Ruled out the NO2, but now will probably wait to see the Pax review.
I think I am leaning towards the Solo due to the vapor flavor and lack of battery hassle, but the fragile glass is a drawback. Stay cool in Yankee country. Thanks a lot man, and all valid points.
I should have the Pax review up by the end of this weekend, stay up! In terms of build quality, portability, and efficiency what do you recommend? It really comes down to what you prefer more, the tastiest vapor or the best portability and quickness. With the MFLB you are vaping in 5 seconds, and u can take one quick draw and put it back away if u want. I should have my review of it posted within a week or so, but if ur lookin to get a new vape asap the Solo and the MFLB are still good choices.
Great video bud…thanks again. This deal was a one time fluke so I am pretty damn lucky. Now I can see how well the davinci compares to the launch box — seems like very stiff competition for the new guy on the block. Got my MFLB. And I freakin adore it. No down side except for the batteries and perhaps the cleaning up. Unfortunately I got a bunch of questions on how to use it efficiently! Given its loaded like usually [not overloading it — but enough to fill it], how many strokes do you take from one load?
The MFLB has an opening on the opposite site of the sucking area. Is that some kind of cooling area or does it serve another purpose? About the guarantee. I found the filter to be very fragile. Do you think they will give you a new one if it somehow gets broken or torn apart etc.? Seems unlikely to me. If not, do you know what exactly IS guaranteed?
Or is it okay to use it without that somehow by only applying it to the pipe? And if I could I got also questions about the use of Volcano, cuz I definitely want to buy it later on. How many balloons do you usually take when you fill the herb chamber for two people? Do you think when you smoke like 4 or 5 balloons with that much herb the last ones still carry any active ingredients or is it just pure vapor at that time?
They designed it to heat up to a slightly higher temp to vaporize more of the active ingredients. However, there is somewhat of a fine line between vaping the crap out of it and burning it, so you do need to practice a lot and find the point that ur most comfortable going to. The first bags will be strongest but there is def some left for the last couple bags.
If you watch my Vaporizer Temperature video i took magnified pictures of what the herbs looked like after 7 balloons from the Volcano set at 6, and it even looks like it could go more not fully spent yet.
Hello,i just discovered your review page and have couple of questions. Could this vaporizer be enough for two persons and how do you determine when are herbs spent in the vaporizer chamber? Keep up the good work :. Hey Vape Critic, Man I appreciate all you do.
In my state, um some things are not legal. I wanted to use some um herbs for Neck pain and Headache but I want to get away from the Smoke and strong odor of the smoke. I can afford a Magic Flight Box though which seems to be one of your picks. I looked at an easyvape but after your review, scratched that one real quick. An Airizer I may could scratch around and afford but if the Magic Flight is the next best to the Volcano which I will get; just may take a few I will go ahead and get the Magic Flight.
Thanks for any input. The Box performance is much better than any other diffuser in its class due to the following four factors: 1 The Box generates vapor only when needed -- it does not waste any vapor by staying hot between draws or by continuing to cook the load after you have had enough.
Loaded material can continue to be cycled over any extended period of time, delivering vapor when you want it without ever having to wait.
Conscious user technique with the battery can ensure that there is zero lost vapor every time. IR diffusers although very uncommon and very expensive tend to be fairly good since they have overall heat distribution characteristics similar to pure convection designs for smaller loads.
The Box uses only and exactly as much heat energy as is needed for diffusion the Box is easily one of the world's most energy-efficient diffusers. Convection diffusers necessarily need to use significantly more heat energy to operate efficiently -- heat which must be removed from the vapor prior to ingestion. Any surfaces, piping, or water chambers used to cool the vapor are also condensation sites.
Condensed vapor is lost vapor and that means that a big pipe overall is less efficient. Any parts that require occasional cleaning also indicate a significant volume of previously lost vapor.
Used natively without the optional stems , the Box rarely requires any cleaning since it delivers the vapor directly to you -- without converting some of it into black gunk along the way.
By shaking the Box between draws, the previously ground load can be evenly re-mixed to ensure much more even heating. The clear lid also allows for immediate inspection to determine both the effectiveness of the stirring and the degree of completion.
In this way, good user technique can result in excellent overall performance and efficiency. In summary, in-house lab testing has shown the Box vape to be nearly as efficient as the best portable vapes when used correctly , and noticeably better than most. Dollar for dollar, the Box delivers more vapor in more locations more naturally than any other. The Box is much smaller than a water pipe, does not require water, can be used outdoors in windy conditions, and in general is far less fragile than most water pipes.
The Box is also much stealthier. A water pipe, by burning your herb, generates all sorts of secondary and harmful chemical byproducts which must then be filtered out using water bubbling. While water filtering does not remove all of the harmful combustion byproducts, it does remove some of the active ingredients by vapor condensation in the water. As such, a water pipe destroys some of your herbal goodness by burning and condensation losses.
More medicinal qualities are available from your herbs with Box vaporization. With a water pipe, the wide shape of the mouthpiece naturally encourages the user to take deeper draws farther into the lungs. To get the same effect out of the Box, we instruct users to take long slow deep draws. The slowness is for how the Box heats, and the longness is so you take a deeper draw fully into the more absorbent passages of the lungs.
We recommend that first time Box users learn how to control the temp in the Box by controlling their draw rate, and then work to take fewer, much longer and deeper draws. In this way, you will find that the Box is far more useful, effective and efficient than any water pipe. What is this thing made out of? Is it safe? The following materials are used in the construction of the Box: Select maple hardwood, Stainless steel screen the same material used in high-end cookware , Acrylic Plexiglas cover, steel pins and a stainless steel spring clip for the cover.
There is no solder no lead used in the screen bonding. There are no hazardous materials used anywhere in the Box, so yes, the Box is safe. None of these components or materials ever get hot enough to be of any concern. Overall, the Box is very durable can be dropped without harm, etc. Occasionally people break the lid off when the Box is open don't hold the Box by the lid , or by dropping it on an especially hard surface.
The Box is designed to withstand side to side shaking as part of the normal technique of usage. The only part which is delicate is the internal screen which is very thin -- use only the provided brush as a tool in direct contact with the screen. While it is true that, in general, convection vaporizers will be more efficient overall than conduction patterns, the performance gap can be narrowed significantly with various techniques and in some cases even dramatically exceeded!
The Box performance is much better than any other vaporizer in its class due to the following four factors: 1 The Box generates vapor only when needed -- it does not waste any vapor by staying hot between hits or by continuing to cook the load after you have had enough.
Loaded material can continue to be cycled over any extended period of time, delivering vapor when you want it without ever having to wait or waste. Conscious user technique with the battery can ensure that there is zero lost vapor every time. While pure conduction designs tend do work very poorly, pure IR vaporizers although very uncommon and very expensive tend to be fairly good since they have overall heat distribution characteristics very similar to pure convection designs for smaller loads.
Convection vaporizers necessarily need to use significantly more heat energy to operate efficiently -- heat which must be removed from the vapor prior to ingestion. Any surfaces, piping, or water chambers used to cool the vapor are also condensation sites.
Condensed vapor is lost vapor and that means that a big pipe overall is less efficient. Any parts that require occasional cleaning also indicate a significant volume of previously lost vapor. Used natively, the Box rarely requires any cleaning since it delivers the vapor directly to you -- without converting some of it into black gunk along the way. By shaking the Box between hits, the previously ground load can be evenly re-mixed to ensure much more even heating.
The clear lid also allows for immediate inspection to determine both the effectiveness of the stirring and the degree of completion. In this way, good user technique can result in excellent overall performance and efficiency. In summary, in-house lab testing has shown the Box vaporizer to be nearly as efficient as the best convection vapes when used correctly , and noticeably better than most.
Finally, it is important to keep in mind that the Box is optimized for convenience -- it was never intended to be "the world's most efficient vape". Dollar for dollar, the Box delivers more vapor in more locations more naturally. That is what it is best used for. Also, what good is a "super-efficient vaporizer" if you do not also use it very consistently? If you end up smoking because you are away from the home and have no place to plug it in or prefer not to wait five minutes for it to heat up!
Getting fairly good efficiency most of the time is very much better overall health wise and cost wise than getting great efficiency only occasionally. For most people, actual practical convenience is much more important in real life than some elusive abstract ideal of "efficiency". I can get a harder buzz from my Box than from my other vaporizers, why? The basic reason has to do with optimized overall airflow and vapor path, as well as near perfect user interface characteristics.
The design of the Box has a number of subtle physical and psychological characteristics to ensure maximum actual vapor delivery. The real efficiency of a vaporizer device is not defined by how well it can make vapor in theory, it is measured in terms of how much of that actual vapor it makes biologically available. Temperature, although an important aspect, is not the only criterion of quality.
Our research indicates that other vaporizer companies have focused all of their design effort on the heating system. After that has been accomplished, they seem to put little effort into calculating the motion and migration of that vapor once it leaves the heating chamber.
Probably this is because it is hard very very hard! Furthermore, for true optimal bio-availability, it is necessary that the design engineer have a realistic understanding and accounting for the human physiology of how the vapor progresses through the mouth, travels through the oropharynx, nasopharynx, the larynx, the trachea, and the progressively subdividing system of bronchi and bronchioles until it finally reaches the alveoli where the adsorption of active ingredients takes place.
Fortunately, our lead designer does happen to have this level of knowledge, and since we are all true geeks, we tend to go for this sort of thing. We have found that when implemented, such optimizations do make a difference, as user experience is able to attest.
The effort involved to get that additional yield, however, is at least 30X over that of the heating system design, and tends to require someone who has taken about 20 or so years of advanced schooling. Does the Box give off an odor in use? While most vaporizers will have significantly less smell than smoking, we believe but have not yet confirmed that this vaporizer produces the lowest level of secondary smell of any vape currently on the market.
The Box has a small short channel system, and therefore, has very few parts in contact with the vapor -- fewer parts to re-radiate smell. The Box uses minimum energy no preheating and minimum exchange air volume, so that there is no smell associated with the aromatic components coming off while waiting for the unit to start up there is no waiting with the Box.
Often, the only evident smell occurs when loading the Box of course, preloading before arrival is an option here. Also, if you exhale directly into someone's face, it is likely that they will smell something. Usually however, anyone more than 3 feet away will not be able to smell anything at all. Your mileage may vary -- all risks taken are exclusively your own -- use responsibly.
Most vaporizers, once started, will also stay going until the load is completely spent constant heating.
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