When was nimrod born

In another part of the Epic, Gilgamesh sets out to kill the being that caused the flood. Though the two may be unrelated, similarities make some sort of relationship between Nimrod and Gilgamesh a possibility.

The basis for this is somewhat wobbly, but some legends and sources suggest Nimrod was a giant. Marduk was the king of Babylonian gods, the patron god of Babylon. Marduk was portrayed as a king, hunter, and warrior. About years passed according to the Genesis 11 genealogy before Abraham was born, and he was separated by several generations from his forefather Shem, son of Noah. It seems the two could never have met. However, Genesis 11 records that the extraordinarily long pre-Flood lifetimes continued, to a lesser extent, even post-Flood.

Shem and his descendants lived around years Genesis Rabbinical literature embraces this thought. In fact, some Jewish texts claim that the wicked Nimrod tried and failed to have Abraham killed as a child, due to a dream that Abraham would be his downfall. We may never know how many of the tales about Nimrod are myths and how much is history, but we can learn one thing.

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May their lives and walks with God strengthen your faith and encourage your soul. Who Were the 12 Disciples of Jesus? Shoebox Collection Week is Here! He also set it up so that the solstice was on December 25th. This is the calendar system that we know as the Julian calendar. To reiterate: Only after 46 BC did December have 31 days. Only after 46 BC was the solstice more or less reliably on December 25 th. The solstice was only reliably on December 25 th only for a little more than one century.

By the second century AD, December 25 was no longer the date of the solstice. You still with me? Hoeh claimed the solstice fell on days it didn't -- days that it couldn't. Remember, Hoeh inadvertently claims no one cared when the all important solstice was anyhow. I told you all of that so you could know for certain that Hoeh's claims are built on how things work today. He attacks holidays as we see them today. He failed to adjust his claims for how things worked anciently.

When we think it through, everything falls to pieces. And it's about to get worse! I haven't yet explained why Hoeh's math is wrong. As we just saw, this claim is utterly false. This claim is inexcusably false. Every one of those claims are wrong. But just take a look at the calendar problem.

Hoeh is crediting the calendar of Julius Caesar ca. In fact, Hoeh is crediting the calendar of Julius Caesar to Nimrod ca. Alexander died some years before Caesar was even born! No one did! Keep in mind that Alexander never conquered Rome. Alexander had no say in the Roman calendar or their religion. Alexander was a Greek emperor. He spent most of his time in Asia. So why did Hoeh mention Alexander the Great at all? It all has to do with math The foundational claim in this entire article is that in BC the solstice was on January 6.

This is the cornerstone. Everything hinges on this. Next, Hoeh needs to get the solstice from January 6th to December 25th. It has to move to December 25th. Hoeh must demonize both Epiphany and Christmas or he betrays his ideology. He can't simply say January 6 is the right date or he calls his Apostle a liar! He must move that solstice date. So Hoeh did a little math. January 6 is how many days from December 25? If you count it out, chances are you'll count 12 days. The 12 days of Christmas!

Except the Romans counted inclusively, which includes both the start day and the end day, so ancient Romans would have counted 13 days. Hoeh needs to move the solstice 13 days. Hoeh says it loses a day every , but let's not squabble over the minutiae. I will use his numbers to recreate what he did. We need to multiply years by the number of days Hoeh wants the calendar to move. If we take years and multiply that by 13 the number of days Hoeh needs to move the calendar we get 1, years.

It would take 1, years to move the solstice the 13 days from January 6 to December Just round that off to 1, because we are only talking rough numbers anyway. Now, if the solstice was on January 6 in BC, years later it should be on December 25th. That equates to AD. It was this bad math , not any historical truth, that causes Hoeh to claim the solstice was on December 25th in BC, in Alexander the Great's day.

He admits as much! It caused the winter solstice to drop back over the centuries about the rate of one day in about years. It didn't exist in Alexander's time either.

It first existed in Julius Caesar's time - 46 BC. You cannot use the error of this calendar in years before the calendar ever existed! But not only that, Hoeh counted 13 days from January 6 to December Except, until 46 BC December wasn't 13 days from January 6.

December only had 29 days, not In BC, December 25 was 11 days from January 1. Hoeh's math is off by two whole days - which means his math is off by years! If Hoeh had thought through what he was doing, he would have ended up in the 's BC, not the 's.

And, as we saw earlier, in the 's BC the solstice wasn't in a month named December, it should have been in a month named February!

Truth be told, the real number by which Hoeh's math was off is incalculable. If Hoeh was the great historian he was held to be, then he knew this without a doubt. Did he get this so very wrong because he didn't know, or because he was deliberately passing on false information? You decide! But the fact remains -- this is official COG doctrine, written by the church historian, published in the flagship church magazine. At first, Hoeh said that the West kept the January 6 tradition alive.

Now Hoeh says the East kept the January 6 tradition alive, and it didn't really catch on in the West. The West observed the date since the time of Alexander, but it never caught on? Then, for some unknowable reason, despite the January 6th date being continually observed since BC, and despite it being in Rome for years, and despite it being church tradition for years, now certain Romans in the west suddenly decided December 25th would be a better day. Even though December 25th was supposedly the date they received from Alexander the Great.

Why would anyone trash 2, years of tradition and suddenly assume December 25th was important? Hoeh says January 6th was the accepted date in that place and time. Then why the sudden change? But Nimrod wasn't born on that day! He was supposedly born on January 6th according to the "most accurately informed historian in the world".

So why change? Hoeh says Nimrod's birthday followed the solstice, but then he amply demonstrates no one seemed to care about the solstice. If it was tied to the solstice, why did no one celebrate it that way? Know this: December 25 wasn't the literal solstice beyond the first century AD! If the solstice is so important, and for 2, years no one cared about the solstice, and December 25th wasn't the solstice -- then why change from January 6 to December 25? Hoeh never really tells us why.

I'll tell you why. He has to smear both Christmas and Epiphany, and he has to point a finger at Constantine the Great, and that's all that matters. In short there was no change. Hoeh made it all up! Lest you think perhaps there is some misunderstanding on my part, here's a quote from this article in its edited form run in the Plain Truth "The celebration of January 6 was anciently introduced in Babylon as the birthday of Nimrod before B.

C, when the winter solstice-the shortest day of the year-occurred on that date. Allan McArthur. But the winter solstice did not continue to fall on January 6 because the pagan calendar was not accurate. When the birthday of Nimrod was first celebrated in Rome, the winter solstice had dropped back to December But the Babylonian priests in Rome continued to celebrate January 6.

Hoeh said plainly that the Romans ignored the solstice and just celebrated January 6th. Then, for no real reason, a date that wasn't the solstice is suddenly important. How is that even possible? In one place, Armstrongism teaches the Catholic Church had no choice but to adopt a pagan date because the Romans were so adamant that they celebrate a certain traditional date, but in another place, Armstrongism teaches that Romans didn't care much for years of unbroken tradition.

We know from history that in the fourth and fifth centuries AD the solstice was not on December 25 th. But according to Hoeh, it should have been roughly three more days farther away than it actually was.

Hoeh's timeline is worse for his explanation than actual history. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever, according to Hoeh's claims, to change from the ancient tradition of January 6 th to December 25 th. December 25th wasn't the solstice in Constantine's time. If this is so true, and so plain, then why the discrepancy?

Today we've seen many contradictions. Herman Hoeh claimed January 6 was the real date of Nimrod's birthday, but if January 6 is the right day then December 25 cannot be. He claimed the whole world observed January 6 for over 2, years, but if the whole world was observing January 6 then no one could be observing December At the same time, he said the Romans first received the tradition when the solstice was on the 25th.

If that's the case, then no one in Rome should be celebrating January 6. He claimed, starting in 2, BC, the solstice crept backwards from January 6, but if that's true then every day the solstice touched is Nimrod's birthday. Nimrod went from one, to two, and now has dozens of birthdays! He tried to claim that both January 6th and December 25th were days for traditional solstice celebrations, but he ended demonstrating no one cared about the solstice.

In one place he said the Italian pagans and then the church in Rome observed the January 6 date. In another place he said the Greek east preserved the date, because it never caught on in the west.

Assumptions were made about ancient cultures that are based on modern circumstances. Features unique to the Latin calendar were ascribed to Babylon and Egypt and Greece. He said Alexander the Great and even Nimrod had access to a calendar that wasn't invented yet. Then, because he had the wrong number of days in December, he miscalculated his conclusion by over years. This is the plain truth?? In short - in one article Herman Hoeh managed to destroy the Church of God's teachings regarding Christmas on December 25th.

I bet you didn't know about Nimrod's January 6th birthday, did you? What I'm telling you today shouldn't be a surprise to you. It was printed in the Plain Truth magazine three times!

Hoeh says Nimrod was born on January 6th, then Hoeh says the celebration was moved to December 25th by Constantine. But why? Why should Noah have needed that type of reassurance unless there had been some astronomical changes?

If the year was lengthened, it means the earth's orbit had been extended, or the earth's rotation had been speeded up, and in either case the sun, moon and stars would all be rising and setting at different times. There are various theories about what caused the Flood, and one of them is that a large object from space came close to the earth and had a gravitational effect. This would have caused the "fountains of the great deep" to be broken up, releasing huge quantities of water, but it could have also affected the earth's orbit and rotation, and the tilt of the earth's axis.

Now, it just happens that in Egypt, one of the most ancient civilisations to develop after the Flood, they had a day civil calendar followed by five days of festivities, each representing the birthday of a different god.

They were known by the Greeks as the Epagomenal Days, or the "days out of time". When the five days were ended, the new year would begin, but it had to be formally proclaimed by the rising of the star Sirius at dawn, and a sixth day was added if necessary to prevent the seasons from drifting.

The heliacal rising of Sirius occurs in the summer the exact time depending on where you are in the world , so it has nothing to do with the winter festivals that have always occurred elsewhere in the northern hemisphere. The Egyptians were not concerned about summer and winter as we are, they were more concerned with the inundations of the Nile, on which their own agricultural seasons depended.

However, for the purpose of calculating the birthday of the gods, it doesn't matter which calendar you use. You just transport the mythology from one culture to another and you can have the birthday of your god when you want it. Christmas has always been a two-day festival, for as long as anyone can trace it back.

On the first day you give presents to your family and friends, and on the second day there was a tradition of giving Christmas boxes to the poor, so it became known as "Boxing Day". One of these days is always the th day of the year, and the church made it into the birthday of Jesus. After Boxing Day there are five days when nobody knows what to do, until we have the New Year festival. During these five days the shops are open and public transport is running but only just , but otherwise most people are off work and you try to avoid doing anything important because somehow, somebody will screw it up.

Unlike the Egyptians, we are monotheistic and we haven't got any more gods to worship once we are finished with the baby Jesus, so we just potter about looking for things to do. Some people go to the shops looking for post-Christmas bargains while others stay at home watching TV or playing with their toys if they are not already broken. Otherwise, they are waiting for New Year to end so they can go back to work and earn some money because after Christmas they are broke.

Is there any meaning to this festival of day ? If you cut out all the mythology about the birthdays of the gods, the date is derived from the pre-Flood calendar when the length of the year was days. In that case, if anything is supposed to happen on 25 December, an Ark celebration would make more sense than a celebration of the birth of Christ which never happened on the th day in anybody's calendar.

Since about our family has abandoned Christmas and celebrated the Jewish festival of Hannukah. We don't consider this to be an "alternative Christmas", because to do so would be to degrade a Jewish festival that exists for entirely different reasons.

For some time before we abandoned Christmas we were celebrating both Christmas and Hannukah. We celebrated Christmas because we didn't know any better, and we celebrated Hannukah because it represents a historic event that we wanted to remember - the restoration of the Temple in BC, after it had been desecrated by the Hellenistic Syrians.

Then we realised there was something wrong with Christmas, so we abandoned it and continued with Hannukah. As far as I am aware, Hannukah is purely historical and there are no mythologies about birthdays of the gods. The dates of the Jewish festivals vary from year to year as the Jewish calendar moves back and forward against the Gregorian Calendar.

Hannukah lasts for eight days and it's customary to open one present each day. Our children are all grown up now, but they used to open a small present on each of the first seven days, like the "stocking fillers" they have at Christmas, then on the eighth day they would open a larger present.

Sometimes one of these days might coincide with Christmas, but on that day they didn't open anything. They just played with the toys they had already opened because we wanted it to be as normal as possible.

I think they enjoyed the Hannukah festival because having fun for eight days is better than just one day, and we enjoyed it also because we never made the mistake of letting them open everything at once and then trying to retrieve all the packaging to find out where everything came from.

Now we are more involved with elderly parents and all their problems, and the wider family, and it isn't so easy to ignore Christmas and do something different. But I always try to get them thinking about why they do it. This year I pulled a Christmas cracker and out dropped the usual party hat, so I held it up and said "The reason why we celebrate Christmas is because there are degrees in a circle", and I told them about the day year of the pre-Flood world and Egyptian calendar, and all the rest of it.

Maybe sometime we will do an Ark Festival, if I can find out how it was done in the ancient world and there are some records of such events. For details of how the Babylonian system of religion has been passed on the the church via Egypt and Rome, I recommend that you should read: The Two Babylons , Rev.